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  • 1.  newbie transition logic question

    Posted 11-09-2016 22:38
    hi guys, i'm going over the beginner transition logic video from the Ross University site. I've altered it slightly so i have 1 In/Out and 2 B2B rules....the first In/Out works fine, the second B2B works fine, but the third doesn't work and it's set up exactly the same as the second. in fact, if i switch the other of the rules, from 1, 2, 3 to 1, 3, 2, the same thing happens, the first two rules are executed and the third is ignored.....what am i doing wrong?


  • 2.  RE: newbie transition logic question

    Posted 11-09-2016 22:39
    i mean to say if i switch the order, not switch the 'other'....
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  • 3.  RE: newbie transition logic question

    Posted 11-10-2016 01:07
    It's not entirely clear what you are expecting to happen. Your second rule called "12312312" only has one check and that is that the "other scene is the same". This will always be true, so that rule will always run and it will not execute the third rule. Only one rule will ever be run when doing a transition. It runs the first rule that all conditions are true.

    Also, your upper_text rule also only has one condition in it, and that condition doesn't actually have any text object configured in it.

    I think what you are trying to do is have the upper_text run when the upper text changes, and also use the 2 line change for a back to back transition of the lower portion.
    If you want both of these to happen, you are going to need to change the conditions to have one condition that checks both if the Upper is same and one that checks if the Upper is different. I've modified your sample to make it work how I think you are trying to do it..

    https://transfer.rossvideo.com/f/99255ae1d



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  • 4.  RE: newbie transition logic question

    Posted 11-10-2016 12:42
    hi bford, thanks for your response and i'm sorry my file was such a mess....your fix worked great; but i'm still practicing, i'm trying to understand why my way isn't working..i've uploaded a cleaner file and i was hoping you could take a look at it.

    my question is this:
    i have an L3D, with 1 line of header text and 2 lines of main text at the bottom. Ideally i want to change the header text and if the text hasn't changed than it doesn't animate. I did this using a B2B and a text compare rule (text is different) so, if the text is different, use so and so directors. CUrretnly it's playing using the B2B, but not paying attention to the check if text is different rule. Why?

    i apply another rule wiht the same type of text compare (text is different) for the 2 lines of main text....this one isn't even playing the B2B. why?

    like i said, your way worked great; but i want to know why my way isn't work; i feel like it should be.

    i'm just experimenting on how many rules can be applied to a scene with multiple director.

    thanks for your help
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  • 5.  RE: newbie transition logic question

    Posted 11-10-2016 18:21
    If you are referring to why going from Sequence ID 3 to Sequencer ID 4 in your sequencer plays the upper_text change; it is because your upper text is actually different. Take ID 3 has it set to "22" and Take ID 4 has it set to "22 ". (Notice the extra tab at the end of the 22. So the text is actually different.

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  • 6.  RE: newbie transition logic question

    Posted 11-10-2016 18:40
    thanks bford, i'm an idiot....but actually i was also wondering why the 2 bottom lines just snap on as opposed to animating in, like they're supposed to....why is it, that the rule "two lines in change" is not read, only rule "upper_text_change" get read? it's as if in the transition logic list, rules 1 and 2 get read, but 3 does not
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  • 7.  RE: newbie transition logic question

    Posted 11-10-2016 21:45
    When transition logic is being executed only one Rule and one Scenedirector pair (one IN and one OUT) will be run. It will run the first rule that has its matching conditions set.
    So, if you have an Upper Text rule that looks for a change in upper text, then when that rule is true, the Upper text scene director will be the ONLY scene director that runs during the transition logic. It will not continue to look at any other rules. This is why you must build it like I did in my sample where I had a scene director that does both the upper text and the 2 lines below it.

    If the upper text is the same, then it will check the next rule in the list. In my sample the next rule compared the 2 line text below to see if they are different, and if so it runs a scene director that only animates the bottom 2 lines.

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