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I'm starting to adopt transition logic into some of the show graphics I work with on a current affairs show, and with this, I'm running into results I'm a little unsure about. I have setup IN/OUT scene directors for 2 different scenes, both are lower third scenes, utilizing the same background animation elements but a different text style. Both scenes push in from the left and dissolve out. I've set up a transition logic rule to ensure that when transitioning between multiple instances of "scene 1" I have each instance dissolve IN if the same scene exists. I'm attempting the same thing between "scene 1" and "scene 2", and have tried to set this up with a back-to-back rule, but not seeing the results I'm expecting when I take "scene 1" on and then take "scene 2" on immediately after. is a back-to-back rule the best option to trigger my scene director transition for going between two different scenes? This seems like it should be easy to setup, as I had no difficulty setting up the transition logic for going between the same scene. Does this make sense?

Hey,

Back to Back tab is designed with the same scene coming on air "back-to-back" in mind i.e Scene1 and then Scene1 again.

To do what you want to do you either want to use "Scene Triggers" in the scene director to fire animations in other scenes or you're going to want to set up conditions in the "in and out" tab that check to see of the other scene is online and then animate accordingly.

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Thanks redmile, I've watched the Transition Logic (XPression U) video on Youtube a few times, and I'm getting what you are referring to, and with that, I've been successful in setting up two different scenes to transition according to the rules/conditions I've set for each. Where I'm not having trouble is getting each scene to dissolve over one another without the lower third background transitioning, thus leaving the transition to look as if only the text dissolved in the transition. I attempted this by creating a scene director which only affects the alpha on the main text layer on the in and out, and when I point my rule to each of the scene directors the resulting transition causes the lower third animated background (which is the same for the two scenes I'm working with) to appear as if it cuts onto the screen. To explain simply:

Scene 1 (animated L3rd - 2 line text) >> dissolve >> Scene 2 (animated L3rd - 1 line text) = seamless background dissolve, changing only text

I feel like I'm overcomplicating things, but it may just be the way that I've interpreted the information in the Transition Logic video on Ross' youtube channel.

The second question - are there any other resources for explaining/learning the different methods for incorporating Transition Logic into a project?
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Hey, I've made a simpler one to get you started, see how you get on.
https://www.rossvideo.com/graphics-system/xpression/xpression-u/quick-tips-134/
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After much frustration trying to figure this out, your video and a bit of further trial and error did the trick. I now have 2 scenes, both with Scene Directors providing a push animation in (when nothing is online) or a dissolve if either of the scenes are online. I also have both scenes dissolving text between the same scene. I appreciate you breaking this down as it helped put things into perspective. I did notice that your keyframe editor has an option to "lock tangent handles". I'm using XPression Designer 6.5, is that something only available in a later version, or is it something I may have missed within the version I'm using? I've included a snip of my TL window, in case it adds to my explanation. Thanks again, the further help was much appreciated. I'm looking forward to learning more from your next tutorial on Transition Logic.




Bill

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The tangent handles is a new feature in 7.1 and higher.
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Thanks Brad - is Designer 7.1 something that would function with my USB dongle, since it runs under 6.5 or does Ross put out a new dongle for each version of the software?
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As long as you are within your warranty period, you are eligible to update to version 7.x. 7.1 is not officially released yet, but we hope it will be available soon.
7.0 is the latest official release. Contact Tech Support directly for more assistance.

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Thanks Brad - My place of employment does have 2 XPression systems in use, but my XPression Designer dongle (which I signed away my first born for :-}) was something I picked up when I attended XPression training with Ross' Robert Mann in Dec. 2016 so I'm not certain how long of a period I have to upgrade to a newer version of Designer. Any thoughts?
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If your dongle is from Dec 2016, then it is eligible to run version 7.X.
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If your dongle is from Dec 2016, then it is eligible to run version 7.X.

Thanks again Brad - I'll reach out to Ross and see about updating my version of Designer. Take care
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Back again with some more questions regarding transition logic, and scene setup. Using Redmile's tutorial, I've created TL for a few different scenes. I'm trying to get each of the scenes to overlap in their transition when detecting that there is already a scene online, similar to how they transition when going Back to Back. As you will see in the video I've linked to this question, I'm not getting the results I'm looking for. What am I missing in this setup?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GValhHeEBuY&feature=youtu.be

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