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Hello, I'm trying to create a topic bar that has transition logic for a sports talk show we do daily. I'm running on Xpression Studio 7.0 Build 3794 with Windows 7 Professional (Service Pack 1).

I've got everything set up, all of my animation controllers made, and am working out scene directors and the logic for each situation. I was able to get the rules to work fine for a basic text update transition, but the next rule I set up continually fails, even when changed to a single text compare rule that is very clearly true. It keeps playing the full out scene director rather than the back-to-back transitions I have set. Any ideas why this could possibly be happening?

Thanks for your help!


Update: I Uploaded a package to https://transfer.rossvideo.com/ into a folder with my username, if anyone would like to take a look.

Update: I Uploaded a package to the Ross transfer system into a folder with my username, if anyone would like to take a look.
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I downloaded your project, but I don't know what is incorrect.
Can you provide a description of which take items in the sequencer to use to see what is incorrect and what you think it should be doing?

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I found the problem. It looks like the scene directors for the RI+LS+TI+HS transition were renamed; and the rule in transition logic does not have the same spelling as the actual scene director in the scene director list.
To fix the problem, just go into the rule and on the B2B tab simply reselect the right scene director from the dropdown.
Because it couldn't find the B2B scene director it just reverted to using the In/Out effect.

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That's strange, I don't recall doing so, but it fixes things. Thanks for the help!

While I'm at it, I'm not sure I'm understanding what "This Scene" and "Other Scene" are referring to in the Text Object condition. Is it referring to the incoming take item and the outgoing take item, respectively? This would be perfect for me to make the logos animate off and on if the team code has become, or was, empty. I've tried going about this, but the logic is becoming finicky.
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"This scene" and "other scene" do refer to the incoming and outgoing scenes, but not as you suspect (respectively).

Since both the Incoming and Outgoing scenes each need to select a rule; and consider the fact that the incoming and outgoing scenes may infact be based off of different scenes; they each iterate through the rules in their own scenes to find the correct rule.

Consider scene A is online, and Scene B is coming online. When Scene A (online) looks for a rule to choose an outgoing animation, it searches the rules in Scene A. In this case "this scene" refers to Scene A and is online (going offline); and "other scene" refers to the incoming scene (Scene B).
Meanwhile, Scene B is looking for a rule to select an incoming transition. So it looks through the rules in Scene B, and while doing this, "this scene" refers to Scene B, while "other scene" refers to Scene A. So it is exactly opposite of the first case.

So, you always need to consider "this scene" and "other scene" both in terms of the scene going online and the one coming off; because they are opposite of each other.

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Okay, so I considered the way it looks at the logic from the perspective of both and made separate rules for in and out for both the logo entering and exiting. However, it's running with whichever pair is at the top of the list regardless. Here's my logic list attached.

Any ideas?

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I'll need to see the scene again.. Impossible to debug this just from looking at the screenshot.. It looks like you are on the right track though, having separate In/Out conditions with different checks..

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Actually, before I even download it, I think you'll want to remove the "no op" chosen scene director from the rules where you don't want it to use that rule.. Otherwise it will stop looking once it finds one that matches and it will just play the "no op" scenedirector. If you don't want it to play that, just leave the dropdown blank.
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Ok I downloaded it; but again I'm confused on which two take items you are going between and which Rule it is supposed to be running for the incoming and outgoing scenes..

You have four take items in the sequencer; which two are you transition between?
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BTW, for testing; make sure you open up the Live Log in the tools debug menu; and it shows you which rule it is running for both the incoming and the outgoing scene (remember each can choose a different rule based on the conditions). This can be handy for determining what it is doing.

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Actually, before I even download it, I think you'll want to remove the "no op" chosen scene director from the rules where you don't want it to use that rule.. Otherwise it will stop looking once it finds one that matches and it will just play the "no op" scenedirector. If you don't want it to play that, just leave the dropdown blank.

Holy scene directors, Batman, I think we've got it! This appears to be making everything work as it should. Thank you for the tip(s)!!!
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