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Bullet points, Sub Bullet points & Y axis positioning of following text

Willie Frazier

Willie Frazier10-09-2018 20:51

Willie Frazier

Willie Frazier10-12-2018 01:41

  • 1.  Bullet points, Sub Bullet points & Y axis positioning of following text

    Posted 10-09-2018 14:17

    I want to make a bullet full screen graphic with sub bullets. My question is, how can I set up the scene so the following text after the sub bullets adjust on the Y axis according to how many sub bullets there are within a bullet group? (example attached) For instance, if my bullet 1 group has 2 sub bullet points, I want the bullet 2 group to adjust in spacing to follow the last sub bullet point, and the same if I have 3 sub bullet points.



  • 2.  RE: Bullet points, Sub Bullet points & Y axis positioning of following text

    Posted 10-09-2018 17:34
    There are a couple of ways to do this, but they all relate to the visibility of the bullet points driving the Y position of the line(s).

    What I would personally do is set up an operator control so they could set the number of bullets for a given group.. say 1-5. So, I would make a published text object in a layer set to only render on preview (so only they can see it). The text output of this number would then drive visibility for the bullet lines, and could also feed an input selector (set to 2 as default since you'd never likely have 1 bullet point). Connect the output of the selector to the Y position of the next text group and place values blocks in the 2, 3, 4, and 5 inputs of the selector corresponding to the desired spacing.
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  • 3.  RE: Bullet points, Sub Bullet points & Y axis positioning of following text

    Posted 10-09-2018 19:32
    Is this through a script? Or can I use Visual Logic?
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  • 4.  RE: Bullet points, Sub Bullet points & Y axis positioning of following text

    Posted 10-09-2018 20:51
    That's all Visual Logic.
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  • 5.  RE: Bullet points, Sub Bullet points & Y axis positioning of following text

    Posted 10-09-2018 23:39

    Here's a quick example of how such a rig would look in Visual Logic:


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  • 6.  RE: Bullet points, Sub Bullet points & Y axis positioning of following text

    Posted 10-10-2018 11:18
    How do I set up the operator control? Is that through the Data Source tab for the individual text lines?
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  • 7.  RE: Bullet points, Sub Bullet points & Y axis positioning of following text

    Posted 10-10-2018 17:11
    Just make a text object in your scene, and publish it (text objects are published by default). You can put the object (along with a second, unpublished one to describe what to do as in "How Many Bullet Points 2-5?" if you like) in a layer object, and under the render tab for that layer object you can check a box that says "Render in preview only" This way, the operator can see it in preview, but it won't render on program output
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  • 8.  RE: Bullet points, Sub Bullet points & Y axis positioning of following text

    Posted 10-10-2018 19:48
    OK, I think I almost have it. In your snip of Visual Logic, are the left box (Bullets 2-5 Text) and the right boxes (Bullet 1-3, Bullet 1-4 and Bullet 1-5) all layers? If so, how did you set up the layers in the Object Manager?
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  • 9.  RE: Bullet points, Sub Bullet points & Y axis positioning of following text

    Posted 10-10-2018 20:27
    Bullet 1-3, 1-4 and 1-5 are the actual text objects comprising the bullet group. I made this with the presumption that there would never be less than 2 bullet points, and never more than 5, but this idea can be expanded out to as many / few as you like.

    The naming convention is irrelevant, it's just what I would have called them.. the 1 indicates they belong to line 1, bullet points for line 2 would be prefaced with a 2 (2-1, 2-2, 2-3, 2-4, 2-5) and so forth, but really just do whatever works for you naming wise.

    Bullets 2-5 text is just a text object the operator can enter a value into in order to drive the number of bullets visible in the scene. This also drives the Y position of the Line-2 text.

    The only thing here in a layer is the Bullets 2-5 text, and that layer is only to make it so the operator can see the instruction / value while not having it play out ot the audience.

    A layer object is not necessary on the bullet text, unless of course you intent to animate them on with a mask.
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  • 10.  RE: Bullet points, Sub Bullet points & Y axis positioning of following text

    Posted 10-11-2018 14:54

    I'm almost there. The only thing I can't figure out is the Y position of my 2nd line. Let me break it down more for you. I have a "Bullet 1 Group" that begins with a bullet line of text, and sub bullets 1-5.



    Then I have a "Bullet 2 Group" that also has a bullet line of text, and sub bullets 1-5. In visual logic, when I map the text indicating how many lines of sub bullets to the input selector with the 5 values to my Bullet 2 Group, it squishes the bullet 2 group up on the same Y axis as Bullet Group 1. I tried changing the values, but it doesn't move the Bullet 2 group on the Y axis.



    Do you know what I'm doing wrong? Should I have the bullets & sub bullets in groups? Thank you so much for your help.


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  • 11.  RE: Bullet points, Sub Bullet points & Y axis positioning of following text

    Posted 10-11-2018 19:20
    I think I got it! I put the Input Selector to an offset of 1 and it seems to be working. Thank you for all of your help!
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  • 12.  RE: Bullet points, Sub Bullet points & Y axis positioning of following text

    Posted 10-12-2018 01:41
    Glad you got it working. Cheers!
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  • 13.  RE: Bullet points, Sub Bullet points & Y axis positioning of following text

    Posted 10-16-2018 19:17
    One more question... If I want the bullet group 1 to have the option of zero sub bullets, how would I alter the Visual Logic?
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  • 14.  RE: Bullet points, Sub Bullet points & Y axis positioning of following text

    Posted 10-16-2018 19:18
    (in order to space the 2nd bullet group correctly on the Y axis)
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  • 15.  RE: Bullet points, Sub Bullet points & Y axis positioning of following text

    Posted 10-17-2018 11:37
    Never mind... I figured that out too! Thank you again for your help.
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  • 16.  RE: Bullet points, Sub Bullet points & Y axis positioning of following text

    Posted 07-08-2019 14:03

    Hello Everybody,

    First of all, english isn't my first language so excuses the faults and I hope that you'll understand me

    I did follow Willie's instructions to do the bullet graphic and it works perfectly!

    My question is :

    How can I pause between each sub bullet of my page?

    I mean that if I choose to have 3 sub bullets there will be 3 pauses but If I want only one sub bullet there will be only 1 pause

    I'm new at Xpression, I work for a French TV Station and I'd really like to develop templates with Xpression but I don't have anything to help me with VL except the few tutos on Ross university but there are so much that isn't explain especially yhe differents functions !

    Thanks for reading me and , I will appreciate any help from the community

    Regards


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