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  • 1.  Crawl Questions

    Posted 05-22-2013 00:41
    I'm trying to create a crawl with a background that should be static (or an animation). I want the crawl to run over this background.

    Unfortunately, when I create the crawl with the background on it, the background moves with the text. Is there a way around this? I thought maybe making a renderview of either the text or the background might work, but I don't even know how to make a renderview.

    Also, is there a way to make the text editable in ENPS? If I put the crawl into a scene group, then the crawl and the crawl scene group both show up in the ENPS plugin. However, if I try to put the one that has the text field on it (the actual scene) into a script, it doesn't run. But if I put the scene group into the script I can't edit the text field.

    Thanks!


  • 2.  RE: Crawl Questions

    Posted 05-22-2013 01:04
    Well, I got around the inputting text through ENPS by creating a datalinq file instead. Now if we want to change the crawl, we can just change the text file. Easy enough.

    I still don't have a clue how to make it use a background that doesn't roll/crawl with the text.

    #XPression


  • 3.  RE: Crawl Questions

    Posted 05-22-2013 02:25
    Your background should be a layer within the scene group itself, not a child scene of it (I assume you're putting it as a child scene at the same level as the text scenes).

    #XPression


  • 4.  RE: Crawl Questions

    Posted 05-22-2013 03:49
    I'm not sure I follow what you are saying. I have a scene group called Phone Bank Crawl, with 1 scene in it, called Phone Bank Crawl - do not use (that way a producer doesn't pull the scene, just the scene group). That scene has 2 elements, the background on a quad and the text.

    Are you saying that I should have a scene with the background graphic as a separate scene in the scene group, and put it on a different layer?

    If I do that then the background still crawls, but it's after the text goes by. I want the text to crawl over the background. Basically what's happening now is that the whole thing starts off screen, and then you see the background slide into the screen, and the text follows. I've made the background as wide as the text field, so when the text runs out, the background follows it off screen, then loops and starts over again.

    What I'm trying to do is to have a background, whether it's static or animation, at the bottom of the screen with text crawling from right to left over that background. I'm not really sure what you mean by making the background a layer within the scene group. The scene group of a crawl or roll just crawls or rolls each scene in the group. How do I get the crawl to put itself over a background that doesn't crawl or roll?

    I tried this a long time ago with a roll instead of a crawl. I had a fullscreen background that I wanted to roll text over. When I tried it, the background moved with the text as well. I now just key that particular roll over a background coming out of our video server. Unfortunately, that doesn't work with my current objective as I want to run a crawl for an entire show.

    Thanks!

    #XPression


  • 5.  RE: Crawl Questions

    Posted 05-22-2013 04:12
    I understand what you're wanting, but maybe I need to explain it better. Try the following in Layout mode (F3):



    [LIST=1]
  • 1. Create a new scene group. Add your background elements to this scene group, like you would a normal scene. Set the global margins for left and right to 10 (you can change this as you like later)
  • 2. Create a new scene. Drag that scene onto the scene group. Add a text object to it, position it, and connect to your datalinq.
  • 3. Create another new scene. This will be used for the image that you separate your crawl text scenes. Add a quad to place your image on as a material, and then drag it into position.
  • 4. Repeat steps 2 and 3 two more times so that you have enough for a continuous crawl across the screen.
  • 5. Update the scene group's settings to crawl and loop. Turn off "Treat last page as full" and "Set blank page on end".



  • Once you've done this, go to Sequence mode (F4), and drag the scene group you just created into the sequence. The background won't move.

    #XPression


  • 6.  RE: Crawl Questions

    Posted 05-22-2013 04:16
    I should've said in step 3 that you need to drag the separator image scene into the scene group after the text scene you've just added.

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  • 7.  RE: Crawl Questions

    Posted 05-22-2013 04:23
    Oh, ok. I think I understand. I didn't realize that the scene group even had the option of putting graphics on it, I thought it was just a placeholder for the scenes you wanted to group together.

    I'll try that tomorrow and get back to you.

    Thanks so much!!

    #XPression


  • 8.  RE: Crawl Questions

    Posted 05-23-2013 03:46
    That worked like a charm. Thank you so much! It looked much better with the background bar not moving with the text.

    Thanks again!

    #XPression


  • 9.  RE: Crawl Questions

    Posted 05-23-2013 04:56
    Not a problem, glad I could help.

    #XPression


  • 10.  RE: Crawl Questions

    Posted 05-24-2013 15:33
    I'm having a similar issue - where I can't seem to constrain the crawling text only to appear within the boundaries of my background image.

    Here's what I have done:

    1. Create Scene Group, place background image layer in Group's canvas (basically a box dropping down off my score stripe)

    2. Create new Scene (within group) with text elements, linking to datalinq of "Top 10 racers"

    I am able to get the text to crawl, while the "text box" stays static, but the Text crawls right to left across the entire screen, not just in margis of the text ox, like I want it to. I assume its an issue with the margins, but I mustn't understand how they work, because no matter what I change, there seems to be no difference in the on-air output.

    thanks!

    #XPression


  • 11.  RE: Crawl Questions

    Posted 05-24-2013 17:25
    actually, looks like I've been able to solve the problem with image masks.

    ..but maybe for future reference, what exactly do "global margins" do?

    #XPression


  • 12.  RE: Crawl Questions

    Posted 05-24-2013 18:56
    The margins will affect the spacing between the children scenes in the crawl. Let's say each child scene contained a different news headline, but when they are crawling you find the headlines are too close together; you can adjust the global margins to add spacing to the left/right of each scene to spread them apart.

    So it affects the 'margins' of the children scenes; but it's "global" because it affect the margins of all child scenes together..

    #XPression


  • 13.  RE: Crawl Questions

    Posted 05-25-2013 00:42
    Thanks for the explanation on margins, Brian. I figured it would have been for masking the crawl, but that helps me out a bunch.

    #XPression


  • 14.  RE: Crawl Questions

    Posted 05-25-2013 02:03
    Yes, thank you. That is very helpful.

    #XPression