Production Switchers

we have just purchased the Carbonite Extreme with 40 input but i am unable to map more than 24 inputs to the main bus while i have 32 buttons on the main bus. please tell me how to map the more than 24 input to the mian bus of the switcher.

Hi Nauman,

The eXtreme is a combined router and switcher and not a switcher with expandable inputs. The Carbonite itself is a 24 input switcher - it has 24 input busses that are directly connected to the routing system. This means that at any one time you can only have 24 inputs into the switcher section. You can of course route any inputs that the router has to any of the Carbonite inputs and mnemonics will follow, so you need to setup router inputs via the switchboard app which can then be recalled to change sources into the switcher section.

This can also be done via DashBoard with Custom Controls, I have several customers who assign a number of switcher inputs as 'router feeds' and then drive them from custom controls.

Nigel

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Hi ,

Thanks for the quick reply but than i have few more questions:

What i understand is we bought a switcher with only 24 inputs and all other sources and destinations are not part of switcher and is of NK router. We bought Carbonite 3X panel which on ross website states that can make 32 direct cross points than what is the purpose of providing 32 buttons and shift option if we can use only 24 inputs?

Routing means i need to place a dedicated system for Vision mixer director so that he may make cross points each and every time he wants additional sources. There is no NK router control panel (hardware) provided in package which means only can be use with software which is quite difficult in live environment.

What about output as dashboard showing only 8 output's while i have 40 output option in my switcher.

We use Aux outputs for video insertions in our graphics and all 8 aux are dedicated for GFX insertion. what we can do with Cleanfeed output if all 8 AUX output are busy for video insertion.

Regards,

Nauman

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Regarding the number of crosspoint buttons, apart from the 24 inputs there are also 10 internal sources that generally get mapped to the buttons, such as Media Stores and MiniME's Obviously with a 24 button panel you would have to shift to get to all of them which is why we built the 32 button panel.

For router control it is nice to have a physical panel, although as I mentioned you can create controls on the CC Macro bus, provided you are running Dashboard. You also mention you are only seeing 8 outputs which is very strange as you should of course be seeing all 40 in the switchboard with access to all switcher and outputs and physical inputs.

Where are you located? I think we should have someone from tech support assist you.

Nigel

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In dashboard we can see all outputs but their cross point options are :

1) PGM

2) PVW

3) 8 switcher outputs (which we are using for AUX)

4) all inputs

Now what i've seen is i can only assign cleanfeed, MEPGM etc to 8 switcher outputs. i am using those outputs for AUX and cannot free them for clean feed. Now please guide me if there is a way to provide clean feed without disturbing my AUX option.

We are located in Lahore, Pakistan and already told our problems to tech support but i think due to weekend we are not getting answers.

#Carbonite

Sounds like you might need to reconsider the workflow, what are you sending on the aux outs? The Carbonite has 10 out total, but of course any physical input can go to any physical output so the switcher outputs should only be used for 'produced' content. With 2 ME's you have PGM and Clean so thats 4 outs, plus the MiniME's if you are using those - otherwise the outputs would be the same as switched inputs.

Do you know Amit Sharma from the Ross Asia team? He would be a great resource for you.

Nigel

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Yes you are right from all the discussion we have i think we will have to reconsider our workflow as we are considering this switcher as we can use all iits nputs and outputs are assignable on buses but after your clarification we will have to sit again and design and new workflow.

we are using Aux outs for GFX insertions. we have already contacted the techsupport and kevin from ross has been assigned to our case but i think due to weekend he will respond on monday.

Regards,

Nauman

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One more problem we are facing i.e. PGM out we are having is of ME3. On lower row we are unable to switch sources (on PGM) at ME1. Kindly guide how to resolve this?

#Carbonite

Sorry but your question is not that clear as to what your asking.

Are you saying your not able to Select ME 1 Re-Entry on your PGM ME?

Or your saying you would like to be able to assign ME 1 to the Row of your panel?

Les

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all rows of the panel have 3 options i.e. ME1, ME2, ME3

I've configured first 5 outputs as Program Outputs.

When i changed the sources (any of 32) from panel lower row selecting ME1 than output doesn't change. Its only changed on ME3. i want it to be changed on ME1

#Carbonite

Program is always the output of the last ME, however ME1 and ME 2 have there own outputs so you can simply send ME1 output to those destinations instead of PGM. You can also change those outputs instantly with a macro.

After our previous conversations I would highly recommend that we get you some online training, I realize it may not be easy to organize on - site training at your location, but we can also provide on-line interactive training for you - you should contact your local Ross partner to see if they can set that up for you, it would likely be very valuable.

Nigel

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Your selecting ME 1 as the "source" for ME 3. Your now sending that ME and what is on it out of ME 3. That is not a delegation button.

There are user buttons for delegating the Row so that you can then control ME 1.

les

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do you have some videos on your site which can guide and help us during the configuration process. as far as online training is concerned i aske our local support to see any possibility. we have operatiional training coming but again its operational training not related to configuration.

Nauman

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http://www.rossvideo.com/production-switchers/carbonite/carbonite-u/index.html

Carbonite U has all of our current videos

Though your question thus far is about operation and how switching works.

Les

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we have facing issue in switching, when we switch the sources on Me1 nothing will change on output but when we select Me3 the output start working. PGM is working only of Me3 while the default PGM should be of Me1.

Nauman

#Carbonite

PGM is "ME 3"

In the Configuration of Outputs you can select PGM (ME3) ME 2 PGM and ME 1 PGM

Les

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in the switcher Menu -> System -> output config we have only 8 configurable outputs and that too for AUX.

#Carbonite

To follow up on what Les said, the Highest ME number is always the program ME. You may be used to a switcher where the lowest number is PGM as thats how some used to do it.

Just reverse your thinking about the ME order, 1 & 2 are before ME 3. ME3 is program and should normally be mapped to the row closest to you.

NIgel

#Carbonite

But what if we want to have program output of ME1 what should we do than?

Moreover, our switcher is 2.5 ME means ME3 is only having 2 keys in it.

#Carbonite

These questions can all be resolved with training, they are operational in that all outputs can be configured during operation.

Anything you need to do can be done, the system is incredibly flexible.

I am pleased to hear that you have operational training being organized, it will cover the all of these topics for you.

Nigel

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what effects the swtcher have and what configuration i will have to make if i factory reset the switcher.

#Carbonite

Your using Aux Buses to feed Graphics with sources.

Instead of using an AUX that is then Assigned to the Physical output that feeds the Graphics inputs you can select any source and the "switcher outputs" So you can configure the Switcher outputs to be ME outputs instead of AuxBuses.

Then you can select on the Physical outputs and switch what is sent to the GFX -- Physical inputs or Switcher Buses.

Les

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Les i am not getting your point. please elaborate

If i'll not assign aux to physical outputs than how can i utilize them via Control panel and how can i feed my graphics engine with input insertions?

#Carbonite

It's a router. You can use a router panel or the DashBoard SwitchPanel interfaces.

Les

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Kindly guide us the pin out connection for ross tally breakout panel connecting to TSL tallyman.

We are be proving the tally signal out of carbonite extreme to multiviewer via tallyman for which we'll be requiring pin configuration.

Regards,

Nauman Altaf

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Hi Nauman,

The pinouts are all shown in the quickstart guide that came with your switcher. if you cannot find it here is a link for you...

https://www.dropbox.com/s/6icktvss207ed64/Carbonite-eXtreme-Hardware-QS%284803DR-200-04%29.pdf?dl=0

Nigel

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Many Thanks.

Regards,

Nauman Altaf

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