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Carbonite control of Sony 9-pin BVW devices

  • 1.  Carbonite control of Sony 9-pin BVW devices

    Posted 07-07-2015 00:43
    Is anyone aware of a device that will take control signals form a carbonite i.e. GPO, rosstalk, etc and convert it to sony BVW control. I know it's a dated, limited protocol but it's often a simple "lowest common denominator" for control of playback devices.


  • 2.  RE: Carbonite control of Sony 9-pin BVW devices

    Posted 07-07-2015 02:35
    Here is a DashBoard Grid File.

    It will convert RossTalk Messages into BetaCam. You will need though a IP to Serial Converter. Control Device Master RTS series is what I tested it with.

    https://www.dropbox.com/sh/fmr60a9hx0jim1t/AABTYKoEo_asnWrc_O4NrKpLa?dl=0

    Les

    #Carbonite


  • 3.  RE: Carbonite control of Sony 9-pin BVW devices

    Posted 07-07-2015 11:54
    Awesome, thanks Les. This looks like what we need.

    #Carbonite


  • 4.  RE: Carbonite control of Sony 9-pin BVW devices

    Posted 07-07-2015 16:51
    Les, I have zero DashBoard Grid experience when I open the file I just get several "null" spaces. Could you maybe provide a little more guidance?

    #Carbonite


  • 5.  RE: Carbonite control of Sony 9-pin BVW devices

    Posted 07-08-2015 20:40
    You will probably need to make sure you are running DashBoard 7 and then if you can send me screen shots of what is wrong that would help.

    On the Setup page I left notes about what needs to be enabled.

    The Shotbox allows you to enter the time code you want to cue and the ID number beside is the RossTalk GPI number that you send. On the transport page (as per the notes in the Setup page) Play is 99 and Stop is 98 etc.

    You setup a rosstalk device to send messages to the IP address of the computer running this grid file. It will interpret the GPI commands you send to it to trigger these "buttons" which will then convert that into BVW-75 commands that will be sent over IP to the IP to Serial device translator.

    Les

    #Carbonite


  • 6.  RE: Carbonite control of Sony 9-pin BVW devices

    Posted 07-08-2015 20:42
    Oh and the other option has always been to use PBUS and a Lance Controller:

    http://www.rossvideo.com/production-switchers/carbonite/carbonite-u/video-tutorial-201.html

    See that link for using the Lance TDC-100

    Les

    #Carbonite


  • 7.  RE: Carbonite control of Sony 9-pin BVW devices

    Posted 07-09-2015 22:18
    Thanks for the follow up Les.

    I downloaded the beta 7 version of dashboard and your file loaded correctly. I think I have it setup right, you configure the carbonite like it's talking to a xpression over rosstalk using the IP of the computer that's hosting the dashboard file correct?

    Is there a way to see if the computer (dashboard) is getting the commands from the switcher? should I see some sort of feedback without a devicemaster converter setup?

    #Carbonite


  • 8.  RE: Carbonite control of Sony 9-pin BVW devices

    Posted 08-06-2015 15:54


  • 9.  RE: Carbonite control of Sony 9-pin BVW devices

    Posted 08-06-2015 19:02
    It does not look like the switcher/DashBoard is sending it commands based on the "counters" in the RTS series.

    You can open the console for Debug in dashboard an I am pretty sure when you send it commands they will trigger. Also you have to make sure that DashBoard preferences has the "global listener enabled" otherwise the GPI commands are not going to be forwarded to the APP.

    Les

    #Carbonite


  • 10.  RE: Carbonite control of Sony 9-pin BVW devices

    Posted 08-06-2015 19:23
    ok, i will check out the debug window.

    I was also just trying to use the big "play" and "stop" buttons in dashboard. Do they not function as stand alone buttons without the carbonite rosstalk GPO commands?

    #Carbonite


  • 11.  RE: Carbonite control of Sony 9-pin BVW devices

    Posted 08-07-2015 02:08
    Nope those would work on their own.

    One other possibility :) is that the Cable is just now wired correctly. If you manually roll it the Timecode should cause the VTR to send lots of TimeCode messages to the Comtrol

    #Carbonite


  • 12.  RE: Carbonite control of Sony 9-pin BVW devices

    Posted 08-12-2015 20:30
    I GOT IT WORKING!!

    Thanks for all your help Les!! if I can scale this reliably this will be a huge upgrade for our multi-site church.

    #Carbonite


  • 13.  RE: Carbonite control of Sony 9-pin BVW devices

    Posted 08-12-2015 20:48
    Just to keep the thread "closed" what was the issue in the end that you had?

    Les

    #Carbonite


  • 14.  RE: Carbonite control of Sony 9-pin BVW devices

    Posted 08-12-2015 21:40
    It was the cables, I had to check the pinout of the comtrol and match it up correctly to the serial port on the Kona 3G card.

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  • 15.  RE: Carbonite control of Sony 9-pin BVW devices

    Posted 08-15-2015 19:39
    One more question. Do you know what "character set" the serial messages are sent in? i.e. UTF-8, UTF-16, windows-65001? I have one playback device that I'm having trouble getting to respond and it requires that I specify.

    #Carbonite


  • 16.  RE: Carbonite control of Sony 9-pin BVW devices

    Posted 08-16-2015 15:17
    I would think UTF8

    However I am pretty sure the VTR protocol is ASII anyway so it should not matter as ASCII is a subset of those

    Les

    #Carbonite


  • 17.  RE: Carbonite control of Sony 9-pin BVW devices

    Posted 10-31-2015 06:12
    Is it possible (or what would be required) to use this panel with a RS422 device (KiPro) connected directly to the host PC running DashBoard using a serial connection - RS232-422?

    Thanks

    Josh

    #Carbonite


  • 18.  RE: Carbonite control of Sony 9-pin BVW devices

    Posted 10-31-2015 15:58
    No dashboard does not support serial ports on the PC. All messages have to go out over IP.

    Les

    #Carbonite