Production Switchers

​​Hello all !
We have a Vision 3 ME switcher connected to Overdrive version 20.  We operate in hybrid mode, meaning, with do some commands manually on the Vision and most of the commands coming from Overdrive.  It works for our workflow without problems.  Except for one point. 
Here's the situation :
We have a template that execute only a custom control when on air, nothing from ME buses or audio side.
It works perfect when executed with an Overdrive take and prepare, it does it's job.
The problem we have is when we want to manually switch 2 or more program keyers without background transition.

here's an example :
In rundown control, the custom control template is prepared, program key 1 is on air, and we want to take it off in the same time we key-on key 3.  So we latch key 1 and key 3 and de-latch bkgd on the program transition and use the auto trans button.  It does work for the key, they switch off and on respectively, but it triggers the custom template even though we did not command it to trigger (no take and prepare), only pgm key transition.

We tried it with other templates, assigning a custom control on the template, and doing only a key transition, it triggers the custom

Any solution ?

Thanks

Nick

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Nick Morneau
Control Room Support
BELL MEDIA - Montreal
Canada
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can you confirm that there is not a Custom Control that is attached to the Auto Trans button possibly?


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Les O'Reilly
Director - Switcher Product Management
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Original Message:
Sent: 11-15-2021 15:27
From: Nick Morneau
Subject: Overdrive vs switcher keyers

​​Hello all !
We have a Vision 3 ME switcher connected to Overdrive version 20.  We operate in hybrid mode, meaning, with do some commands manually on the Vision and most of the commands coming from Overdrive.  It works for our workflow without problems.  Except for one point. 
Here's the situation :
We have a template that execute only a custom control when on air, nothing from ME buses or audio side.
It works perfect when executed with an Overdrive take and prepare, it does it's job.
The problem we have is when we want to manually switch 2 or more program keyers without background transition.

here's an example :
In rundown control, the custom control template is prepared, program key 1 is on air, and we want to take it off in the same time we key-on key 3.  So we latch key 1 and key 3 and de-latch bkgd on the program transition and use the auto trans button.  It does work for the key, they switch off and on respectively, but it triggers the custom template even though we did not command it to trigger (no take and prepare), only pgm key transition.

We tried it with other templates, assigning a custom control on the template, and doing only a key transition, it triggers the custom

Any solution ?

Thanks

Nick

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Nick Morneau
Control Room Support
BELL MEDIA - Montreal
Canada
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Thanks, Les for answering.
Unfortunatly, I confirmed, no CC  attached to auto trans. 
It also behave the same with the cut button with only keys latch, no transition demanded.

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Nick Morneau
Control Room Support
BELL MEDIA - Montreal
Canada
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Original Message:
Sent: 11-15-2021 15:40
From: Les O'Reilly
Subject: Overdrive vs switcher keyers

can you confirm that there is not a Custom Control that is attached to the Auto Trans button possibly?


------------------------------
Les O'Reilly
Director - Switcher Product Management

Original Message:
Sent: 11-15-2021 15:27
From: Nick Morneau
Subject: Overdrive vs switcher keyers

​​Hello all !
We have a Vision 3 ME switcher connected to Overdrive version 20.  We operate in hybrid mode, meaning, with do some commands manually on the Vision and most of the commands coming from Overdrive.  It works for our workflow without problems.  Except for one point. 
Here's the situation :
We have a template that execute only a custom control when on air, nothing from ME buses or audio side.
It works perfect when executed with an Overdrive take and prepare, it does it's job.
The problem we have is when we want to manually switch 2 or more program keyers without background transition.

here's an example :
In rundown control, the custom control template is prepared, program key 1 is on air, and we want to take it off in the same time we key-on key 3.  So we latch key 1 and key 3 and de-latch bkgd on the program transition and use the auto trans button.  It does work for the key, they switch off and on respectively, but it triggers the custom template even though we did not command it to trigger (no take and prepare), only pgm key transition.

We tried it with other templates, assigning a custom control on the template, and doing only a key transition, it triggers the custom

Any solution ?

Thanks

Nick

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Nick Morneau
Control Room Support
BELL MEDIA - Montreal
Canada
------------------------------

If there is no Custom Control that is doing this then I don't think this is a "switcher" issue but rather something that OverDrive is doing then to advance a template..

I would create the issue and then send the logs to tech support so that they can get them to the product teams to review where this command is coming from

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Les O'Reilly
Director - Switcher Product Management
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Original Message:
Sent: 11-15-2021 15:55
From: Nick Morneau
Subject: Overdrive vs switcher keyers

Thanks, Les for answering.
Unfortunatly, I confirmed, no CC  attached to auto trans. 
It also behave the same with the cut button with only keys latch, no transition demanded.

------------------------------
Nick Morneau
Control Room Support
BELL MEDIA - Montreal
Canada

Original Message:
Sent: 11-15-2021 15:40
From: Les O'Reilly
Subject: Overdrive vs switcher keyers

can you confirm that there is not a Custom Control that is attached to the Auto Trans button possibly?


------------------------------
Les O'Reilly
Director - Switcher Product Management

Original Message:
Sent: 11-15-2021 15:27
From: Nick Morneau
Subject: Overdrive vs switcher keyers

​​Hello all !
We have a Vision 3 ME switcher connected to Overdrive version 20.  We operate in hybrid mode, meaning, with do some commands manually on the Vision and most of the commands coming from Overdrive.  It works for our workflow without problems.  Except for one point. 
Here's the situation :
We have a template that execute only a custom control when on air, nothing from ME buses or audio side.
It works perfect when executed with an Overdrive take and prepare, it does it's job.
The problem we have is when we want to manually switch 2 or more program keyers without background transition.

here's an example :
In rundown control, the custom control template is prepared, program key 1 is on air, and we want to take it off in the same time we key-on key 3.  So we latch key 1 and key 3 and de-latch bkgd on the program transition and use the auto trans button.  It does work for the key, they switch off and on respectively, but it triggers the custom template even though we did not command it to trigger (no take and prepare), only pgm key transition.

We tried it with other templates, assigning a custom control on the template, and doing only a key transition, it triggers the custom

Any solution ?

Thanks

Nick

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Nick Morneau
Control Room Support
BELL MEDIA - Montreal
Canada
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Great.
Will do this.

Thanks​

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Nick Morneau
Control Room Support
BELL MEDIA - Montreal
Canada
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Original Message:
Sent: 11-15-2021 16:12
From: Les O'Reilly
Subject: Overdrive vs switcher keyers

If there is no Custom Control that is doing this then I don't think this is a "switcher" issue but rather something that OverDrive is doing then to advance a template..

I would create the issue and then send the logs to tech support so that they can get them to the product teams to review where this command is coming from

------------------------------
Les O'Reilly
Director - Switcher Product Management

Original Message:
Sent: 11-15-2021 15:55
From: Nick Morneau
Subject: Overdrive vs switcher keyers

Thanks, Les for answering.
Unfortunatly, I confirmed, no CC  attached to auto trans. 
It also behave the same with the cut button with only keys latch, no transition demanded.

------------------------------
Nick Morneau
Control Room Support
BELL MEDIA - Montreal
Canada

Original Message:
Sent: 11-15-2021 15:40
From: Les O'Reilly
Subject: Overdrive vs switcher keyers

can you confirm that there is not a Custom Control that is attached to the Auto Trans button possibly?


------------------------------
Les O'Reilly
Director - Switcher Product Management

Original Message:
Sent: 11-15-2021 15:27
From: Nick Morneau
Subject: Overdrive vs switcher keyers

​​Hello all !
We have a Vision 3 ME switcher connected to Overdrive version 20.  We operate in hybrid mode, meaning, with do some commands manually on the Vision and most of the commands coming from Overdrive.  It works for our workflow without problems.  Except for one point. 
Here's the situation :
We have a template that execute only a custom control when on air, nothing from ME buses or audio side.
It works perfect when executed with an Overdrive take and prepare, it does it's job.
The problem we have is when we want to manually switch 2 or more program keyers without background transition.

here's an example :
In rundown control, the custom control template is prepared, program key 1 is on air, and we want to take it off in the same time we key-on key 3.  So we latch key 1 and key 3 and de-latch bkgd on the program transition and use the auto trans button.  It does work for the key, they switch off and on respectively, but it triggers the custom template even though we did not command it to trigger (no take and prepare), only pgm key transition.

We tried it with other templates, assigning a custom control on the template, and doing only a key transition, it triggers the custom

Any solution ?

Thanks

Nick

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Nick Morneau
Control Room Support
BELL MEDIA - Montreal
Canada
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