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Controlling Cobalt Frame Card from Acuity TDx3 Switcher

  • 1.  Controlling Cobalt Frame Card from Acuity TDx3 Switcher

    Posted 30 days ago

    Hello.  Currently, for context, we are installing two new FR5 Ultrix routers, each connected to a TDx3 in Acuity mode.  We have all of our systems setup and commissioned in Dashboard.  

    We have several Cobalt color correcting cards in an Open Gear frame on the same network as the ROSS equipment.  I have added the frame in Dashboard and can access all of the cards with no issues.  As an option in these cards, there is a button marked preset where you can create an A/B option for the color correcting.  Currently we have log into the card, go to the preset and choose which one.

    Wanting to know if it is possible to setup something like a Ross Talk communication that could connect the A/B option in the preset of the card.  Then, on the TDx3, create a custom button or macro that could go in between those options so the production operators go use this color correcting option without engineering logging into the card.

    Thank you

    Robert K.



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    Robert Kinnan
    Broadcast Engineer
    Spectrum Charter News
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  • 2.  RE: Controlling Cobalt Frame Card from Acuity TDx3 Switcher

    Posted 30 days ago

    Possibly ....

    We would need to try to make a DashBoard Custom Panel that would drag these A/B buttons into (if possible -- never done this...) Then from there we could assign RossTalk GPI trigger numbers to that DashBoard Panel.  Then we can build a CC that will send to that DashBoard custom panel which would then trigger those A/B buttons.



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    Les O'Reilly
    Director - Switcher Product Management
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  • 3.  RE: Controlling Cobalt Frame Card from Acuity TDx3 Switcher

    Posted 30 days ago

    Thank you for your reply.  If we wanted to trying this, what would be the process to build this?  Would we open a support ticket?

    Thanks



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    Robert Kinnan
    Broadcast Engineer
    Spectrum Charter News
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  • 4.  RE: Controlling Cobalt Frame Card from Acuity TDx3 Switcher

    Posted 30 days ago

    You probably will need to get some help then if you have never made custom panels.  It is also possible to look at this with a Trainer or other product specialist if time can be assigned to this.  I guess opening a support ticket is a start as it might require some direct online training resources.



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    Les O'Reilly
    Director - Switcher Product Management
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  • 5.  RE: Controlling Cobalt Frame Card from Acuity TDx3 Switcher

    Posted 29 days ago

    With what you said, I created a blank panel using xml (not sure if correct).  Then I put my opengear card side by side with the new blank panel.  I put both in edit mode and dragged the option I needed to the new panel.  This worked. 

    I had said before that what I was dealing with was an A/B switch but it seems to basically be a dropdown with two different options.  Not sure if I can edit this in the new panel to make it two separate buttons but for now its there.

    I guess the next question would be, should I setup a COM connection to the frame from my TDx3?  I was thinking it would be Ross talk but noticed that an available option would be OGP which I believe is native communication to the OpenGear ecosystem.  Let me know if I am on the correct track and if you have any other advice before opening a ticket.  

    Ironically we just had someone commission our system last week but was not aware of how to do this, so any help is appreciated.



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    Robert Kinnan
    Broadcast Engineer
    Spectrum Charter News
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  • 6.  RE: Controlling Cobalt Frame Card from Acuity TDx3 Switcher

    Posted 29 days ago

    Robert, you may get better assistance with building the panel if you move this to the Dashboard community page that is monitored by Dashboard Product team members.  If you wanted it built for you by Ross we could engage our Rocket Surgery creative team but that is a paid service.  

    Dashboard community page

    https://rossvideo.community/communities/community-home?CommunityKey=94781415-eb0f-4f9a-b891-c44d41d870c8



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    Michael Fermoyle
    Ross Video
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  • 7.  RE: Controlling Cobalt Frame Card from Acuity TDx3 Switcher

    Posted 29 days ago

    You would use RossTalk.

    You can use the default RossTalk listener that is in DashBoard but you have to enable it and set the port.  It will then pass GPI RossTalk Commands directly to the Buttons.  So you point it to the IP address of the computer running Dashboard that will have this panel on it.

    Then you will probably need to make buttons and control the device Parameter.  Which can probably be done in Visual Logic.  You would add the device from the Tree in Visual Logic and then make a Button to Set A and a Button to Set B.
    Each Button would get a trigger Value that is going to be the GPI number you send to the panel

    example:

    That panel those images are the Buttons.  Pressing one of those will set my panel to connect to that frame.

    I used a Name instead of a number (so when I build the CC on the switcher I have to use the Type in command and enter --     GPI PPC      ----  however if I used a number -- ie 101 ...  Then I would have selected the GPI command in the CC and just put in the value of 101.

    I then Added an event

    The edit task viewer will open on ogScript and in Visual script mode.  You need to add the Card to devices section from the basic tree

    Then you will be able to drag in the Parameter that is the control (note that you can find that using Inspector Mode CTRL+I clicking on the gear card Parameter.

    In the example you see 

    I searched for IP to find the IP addresses parameters for my TD panel after adding it (like I would a gear card) to my devices.  Then I dragged in that OID and I used the panels text entry that I created for typing in IP addresses (so I made 5 IP entry boxes).  This button is the first button and will use the Frame 1 IP address and the Output of that value is put into the input value of the IP address.  When the Button is pressed it will set the TD2 Panels IP address to connect with to the Value of that box.

    Note -- if I did not want to make a Paramater to type in without editing the panel I  can always use the Control and API blocks on the Right side.  So I could have pulled in a "Constant" and then entered a value in it directly --  Then set it's "Output" to send the value into the block
    In my example I also needed to push the Button - so after my pause for the IP value to be set my second event was to push the "apply" button.

    I used CTRL + I to find that button OID and then all I needed to do was set to a 1 and it would toggle the button:

    If you could maybe save the configuration of on of those cards to a file might be easier to look at and show an example.

    Please use this example from me exporting a DA Card -- Make sure the card is open then right click on the Card in the Tree and Save Configuration to File

    Post it here and then I can at least open the card in DashBoard and see if I can help further.



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    Les O'Reilly
    Director - Switcher Product Management
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  • 8.  RE: Controlling Cobalt Frame Card from Acuity TDx3 Switcher

    Posted 25 days ago

    Hello, Les.  Just wanted to see if you received my link to my card.  Sent it on a private reply.  

    Been learning from your post you but still have questions.  

    Thanks



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    Robert Kinnan
    Broadcast Engineer
    Spectrum Charter News
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  • 9.  RE: Controlling Cobalt Frame Card from Acuity TDx3 Switcher

    Posted 25 days ago

    Yes just got it -- I am just now getting to look into todays email.

    I am a pretty booked up this week so will do my best to try and find some time to look at it.



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    Les O'Reilly
    Director - Switcher Product Management
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  • 10.  RE: Controlling Cobalt Frame Card from Acuity TDx3 Switcher

    Posted 24 days ago

    I think this will work..

    You have to make A Button for each preset.  They are Stored as Integers and the first one is starting at 1001

    with the Card view open you can use the inspector -- CTRL+I then double click on button or field.

    So there we can see the name of the OID and the OID Hex value (which we will look up in the device Parms in device tree on the Left of the Visual Script Editor.  We can see it is an Integer and that the values for each of the presets start at 1001 and up as you make more presets it looks like.

    The Load Button is also an Integer and you set to 1 to trigger the Button. Again via the inspector the name of the OID we need to look for and the Values we can set it too.

    We will Make 2 buttons (you will want to make 1 per preset .. can just copy  paste - Move the copied button)  Then edit the button to set the integer and also set the Trigger ID.

    So the Trigger ID is set on the Button below where you program the Name.  I went with 1001 to match the Integer value of preset 1 and then for button 2 it is going to be 1002 to match the preset integer value of 1002

    From a RossTalk Custom Control event you would send the GPI 1001 or GPI 1002 value to the PC with this dashboard Panel running on it and the device configured as covered before.



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    Les O'Reilly
    Director - Switcher Product Management
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  • 11.  RE: Controlling Cobalt Frame Card from Acuity TDx3 Switcher

    Posted 22 days ago

    Hello, Les.  Wanted to thank you for the previous example.  Was able to setup the custom dashboard, based on your example and control the dropdown options.  Especially once I understood the inspection mode.  That was a big help.

    The only item I have left is how to properly setup the Com settings for the Acuity panel to talk to dashboard.  I do have two different expression coms setup from Karina but not sure if they were done correctly relative to what was made.  

    They are RTalkXPN connections, one looking at the server that has dashboard and the other looking at the frame.  

    Thanks



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    Robert Kinnan
    Broadcast Engineer
    Spectrum Charter News
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  • 12.  RE: Controlling Cobalt Frame Card from Acuity TDx3 Switcher

    Posted 22 days ago

    You will not talk to the OpenGear Frame -- You will just send messages to the Computer that has DashBoard on it.

    You will then setup up RossTalk TCP and make sure that you have Port Setup for the port you enabled in the Global Listener in DashBoard.  Make sure that port is not in use by something else -- ie example is running DashBoard on an XPression also running RossTalk on 7788 default port.

    Then when you make a custom control on the Acuity to send a RossTalk event to that Button you can use the GPI Event and then make sure the Number matches.



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    Les O'Reilly
    Director - Switcher Product Management
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