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DataLinq VisualLogic HELP

  • 1.  DataLinq VisualLogic HELP

    Posted 09-30-2022 13:29
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    Hello,

    I have a problem. I made some graphics with DataLinq in the Visual Logic and it seems to work OK on the Xpression Designer, but when I upload it to the server and put the graphics on the Xpression Studio there seems to not read all the data from the DataLinq.

    Also noticed when I close Xpression Designer and open again the same project all data in the Visual Logic need to be refreshed manually



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    Svetlin Aleksandrov
    Motion Graphic Designer
    Euronews Bulgaria
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  • 2.  RE: DataLinq VisualLogic HELP

    Posted 09-30-2022 13:40
    I would make a number of hidden text objects and tie them to datalinq and use them in visual logic instead, I find it more reliable.

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    Simon Redmile
    Senior Graphic Programmer & Designer
    Ross Video
    Bristol United Kingdom
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  • 3.  RE: DataLinq VisualLogic HELP

    Posted 09-30-2022 13:56

    So it's not a good idea to use Data Sources directly in Visual Logic, and its better to pull data from DataLinq if it is directly on the text fields here?



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    Svetlin Aleksandrov
    Motion Graphic Designer
    Euronews Bulgaria
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  • 4.  RE: DataLinq VisualLogic HELP

    Posted 09-30-2022 16:47
    Not sure if its a good idea or not I am just speaking from personal preferences. I find that connecting text objects to the data in the tab you have shown and then using that in visual logic to be successful. I also like to see visually the data coming in to check it. I place the text objects in a layer object that I set to preview only so that in the preview I can actually see the raw data come in before visual logic does it work. 






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    Simon Redmile
    Senior Graphic Programmer & Designer
    Ross Video
    Bristol United Kingdom
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  • 5.  RE: DataLinq VisualLogic HELP

    Posted 10-01-2022 13:09
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    So this method is not working too. You can see in the uploaded video. For some reason it is not updating some of the items. Need to be refreshed. I need this working by tomorow. Any suggestions?

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    Svetlin Aleksandrov
    Motion Graphic Designer
    Euronews Bulgaria
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  • 6.  RE: DataLinq VisualLogic HELP

    Posted 10-02-2022 17:33
    Does it behave like that when the scene is online or only in layout?

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    Simon Redmile
    Senior Graphic Programmer & Designer
    Ross Video
    Bristol United Kingdom
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  • 7.  RE: DataLinq VisualLogic HELP

    Posted 10-03-2022 04:55

    @Simon Redmile Yes, it's not updating the data when go online too. I don't care too much for the layout if the data which is on air is correct, but it's not. Anyway... I have found a work around, unfortunately too late... If you checked this thick in EVERY single DataLinq it fixes the "not updating" or "random updating" problem.






    @Roman Yaroshenko

    Doesn't matter if the server is network or local. It behaves the same way. Tried both, even both connected at the same time.




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    Svetlin Aleksandrov
    Motion Graphic Designer
    Euronews Bulgaria
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  • 8.  RE: DataLinq VisualLogic HELP

    Posted 10-03-2022 05:09
    Funny enough trying that was my next suggestion to try if it wasn't working online. 

    That only needs ticking on data that drives other data, you shouldn't need it on data that's not driving anything else and just displaying.

    Also if you have a piece of data that always changes when some of the others do and you check that it will refresh everything and then you don't have to do the entire scene. So for example in my projects where I have data driving other data I will sometimes use a hidden piece of data connected to something I know will always change when anything else does and that will cause a chain reaction of data updates. But this should only really be needed when you are using data to complete queries and macros for other data. 

    Be aware that you won't want to use this method when you want more control over your data driven graphics, for example I build a lot of scenes with animations and I wouldn't want them all firing all the time so in this case I wouldn't use this method. 

    There are settings in your ADODB setup that could have helped, I believe @Roma asked to see your config, would be worth sharing each page of one of your configs here and maybe we can make some suggestions. 


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    Simon Redmile
    Senior Graphic Programmer & Designer
    Ross Video
    Bristol United Kingdom
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  • 9.  RE: DataLinq VisualLogic HELP

    Posted 10-03-2022 06:02

    @Simon Redmile I tried that to check this option only on the field that has refreshing properly, but didnt worked, after taht I checked it on every single datalinq, but i was forgot 2 of them (missed in the hurry) and those 2 didnt worked correctly. So in my case the only working way was to check every single one.

    Also I have they are connected to several things

    to change colors

    to change pictures

    to drive animations



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    Svetlin Aleksandrov
    Motion Graphic Designer
    Euronews Bulgaria
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  • 10.  RE: DataLinq VisualLogic HELP

    Posted 10-03-2022 06:04
    Pretty certain its because of your excel workbook settings, it sounds like the behavior I'd expect if it's not shared.

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    Simon Redmile
    Senior Graphic Programmer & Designer
    Ross Video
    Bristol United Kingdom
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  • 11.  RE: DataLinq VisualLogic HELP

    Posted 10-03-2022 05:25
    Hi SysLeg.
    I see that you are using Excel as a database.
    My question is, have you turned on sharing access in the Excel file? If no, datalinq can't connect to the opened excel file.

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    Roman Yaroshenko
    chief specialist
    RBC-TV
    Moscow Russian Federation
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  • 12.  RE: DataLinq VisualLogic HELP

    Posted 10-03-2022 05:56
    Ha... tnx, now i know why this was happening, but its not related to the problem. I noticed that if you open the excel file datalinq cant connect, but we didnt opened them, edited in separate file with same name and just replacing it.

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    Svetlin Aleksandrov
    Motion Graphic Designer
    Euronews Bulgaria
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  • 13.  RE: DataLinq VisualLogic HELP

    Posted 10-03-2022 05:59
    You need to enable legacy sharing mode, then you'll be able to have it open and datalinq will also live update when you save.

    These links will help you. 

    https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/what-happened-to-shared-workbooks-150fc205-990a-4763-82f1-6c259303fe05

    https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/office/troubleshoot/excel/use-shared-workbook

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    Simon Redmile
    Senior Graphic Programmer & Designer
    Ross Video
    Bristol United Kingdom
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  • 14.  RE: DataLinq VisualLogic HELP

    Posted 10-03-2022 04:04
    Hi SysLeg.
    Can you show the datalinq server configuration?

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    Roman Yaroshenko
    chief specialist
    RBC-TV
    Moscow Russian Federation
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